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“India and Pakistan: Searching for Humanity in South Asia”
R n By William Shriver
       elations between India and       The India and Pakistan that we see today are not Gandhi’s and Jinnah’s visions. Both nations have evolved away from their       At the end of the day, this pe-
       Pakistan have entered a          founding vision into something much harsher and uglier                                                                     riod of hostile silence between In-
       period of darkness, as the                                                                                                                                  dia and Pakistan is not sustainable.
Indian and Pakistani govern-            between South Asian Hindus and and Pakistan who speak out and                 mighty will someday show the right           These honest conversations between
ments refuse to engage in any           Muslims. Ahmed argues that the protect the marginalized minorities            path to the peoples and rulers of            Indian and Pakistani civil society
                                        harsh lockdown in Kashmir, Hindu- and the weak, as both governments           countries in South Asia.”                    leaders are an excellent place to be-
                sort of dialogue.       tva lynching of Indian Muslims, and have failed to do so. 	                                                                gin in the resumption of dialogue.
                The South Asian         the Citizenship Amendment Act all  Prof. Gandhi exclaimed that                     In this period of tense relations       India and Pakistan should take this
                giants continue to      make Muslims second-class citizens “the megaphone has been seized by          between the governments and the              call for dialogue and humanity from
                spar over a range       in their own land.                 merchants of hate” in both nations.        people of India and Pakistan, two            Ambassador Ahmed and Prof. Gan-
                of issues, including    Even though the founders However, similar to the sentiment                    South Asian scholars of opposite             dhi very seriously, as they are setting
                Kashmir and tense       Gandhi and Nehru promoted reli- from Ahmed, this seizure does not             sides were able to come together             an excellent example. Both speak-
                Hindu-Muslim rela-      gious coexistence, their vision of a tell the whole story of Hindus and       for a civil discourse on not only In-        ers projected hope for the future of
tions. However, this period of si-      pluralistic India is quickly fading. Muslims in South Asia. Many In-          dia and Pakistan, but on the greater         the region and faith in the human-
lence stands in contrast with that      With today’s news, it may seem that dians and Pakistanis wish to come         implications of Hindu-Muslim rela-
of the South Asian scholarly and        Hindus and Muslims are nothing together – as this event is an ex-             tions. Both Prof. Gandhi and Am-               The dialogue has
academic community, which has           but enemies, but Ahmed believes ample of exactly that. Prof. Gandhi           bassador Ahmed urged more South                   already had a
worked to bring Indians and Paki-       that this an incorrect reading of his- finished his talk with the discussion  Asians to reach across to the other
stanis together to build bridges.       tory. Ahmed spoke of his time with of Lord Ram, to which he claimed           side and learn more about each               significant impact in
     On August 6th, I had the op-       Hindu scholar                                                                 other in an effort of bridge-building        South Asia. Leading
portunity to attend an extraordi-       Nirad C. Chaud-
nary closed-door event hosted by        huri, ex-Supreme                                                                                   and dialogue.              Indian politician
the Institute of Strategic Studies      Court Judge V. R.                                                                                        This conver-         and intellectual
Islamabad, featuring a special lec-     Krishna Iyer and                                                                                                           Sudheendra Kulkarnj
ture by Ambassador Akbar Ahmed          numerous other                                                                                     sation between              has observed:
with Professor Rajmohan Gandhi as       Hindus as his per-                                                                                 two esteemed                “Reading your
the discussant. The discussion was      sonal warm and                                                                                     scholars high-          article on Nayadaur.
moderated by the former Foreign         welcoming experi-                                                                                  lighted the many          tv, based on your
Secretary of Pakistan and former        ences with Indian                                                                                  reasons why I              recent lecture in
Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Ai-     Hindus. While                                                                                      chose to study           Islamabad, gave me
zaz Ahmad Chaudhry. Ambassador          this idea of hope                                                                                  South Asia. First-       great joy. It is full of
Ahmed is best known as “the world’s     was based off of                                                                                   ly, more work has        wisdom, as all your
leading authority on contemporary       personal accounts,                                                                                 to be put in to          writings are...These
Islam” as quoted by the BBC, and        it demonstrates                                                                                    avoid a nuclear         are depressing times
Prof. Gandhi is an internationally      that Indian and                                                                                    war. Though not           for India-Pakistan
known humanist, author and the          Pakistanis, Hin-                                                                                   many Americans             and India-China
grandson of Mahatma Gandhi.             dus and Muslims,                                                                                   realize it, four           relations. But we
     The conversation was attended      can foster genuine                                                                                 nuclear powers           must persevere. The
by numerous Pakistani and Indian        relationships. The                                                                                 are now one skir-         idea of Shanti and
scholars, academics, diplomats, and     headlines of India                                                                                 mish away from           Salaam, which you
ambassadors. Even as distinguished      and Pakistan of to- Ambassador Akbar Ahmed and Professor Rajmohan Gandhi                           possibly firing a       have so persuasively
Pakistani and Indian scholars, both     day do not paint a                                                                                 nuclear weapon.           explained in your
speakers displayed great respect for    complete picture of Hindu-Muslim “Ram is a loved name for the un-                                  Secondly, at their         article, is bound
one another. Prof. Gandhi noted         relations, and this discussion be- born, undying, and all merciful all                             very best, In-             to win. We must
“My good friend, Ambassador Ak-         tween Prof. Gandhi and Ambassa- mighty, called by different names by                               dia and Pakistan             continue our
bar Ahmed Sahib...He is a scholar       dor Ahmed exemplifies exactly why. anxious human beings all over the          showcase what is so important in a              duty, firm in our
who seeks in word and deed to be        Concluding his lecture, Ahmed world.”                                         democracy and the lessons that we               conviction that
a reconciler...I respect him for this”  ended on one note: the India and   The dialogue has already had               can learn from Gandhi and Jinnah.             God Almighty will
and Ambassador Ahmed stated that        Pakistan that we see today are not a significant impact in South Asia.        Both Pakistan and India envisioned            someday show the
he is “honored to be conversing with    Gandhi’s and Jinnah’s visions. Both Leading Indian politician and in-         nations where the rights of all were            right path to the
Prof. Gandhi and building a bridge      nations have evolved away from tellectual Sudheendra Kulkarnj has             protected, regardless of religion or         peoples and rulers of
of dialogue with a great scholar.”      their founding vision into some- observed: “Reading your article on           class. Gandhi and Jinnah had a vi-            countries in South
This conversation has come at a cru-    thing much harsher and uglier. Fol- Nayadaur.tv, based on your recent         sion not seen in many other world
cial time as India-Pakistan relations   lowing the lecture, Prof. Gandhi lecture in Islamabad, gave me great          leaders, and those of us in the West                  Asia.”
have nosedived and the countries        opened by saying that Ahmed “has joy. It is full of wisdom, as all your       can greatly learn from their vision.
seem to be reading different pages      been franker about India’s depar- writings are...These are depressing         Lastly, I aspire to learn more about         ity of its people. Without dialogue,
of different books.                     ture from Gandhi and Nehru, than times for India-Pakistan and India-          both India and Pakistan, as the              an uglier more violent confronta-
     In his lecture, Ambassador         about Pakistan’s departure from Jin- China relations. But we must perse-      United States is a firm ally of both         tion could easily become a reality in
Ahmed dove into what he saw as          nah.” He firmly agreed that both In- vere. The idea of Shanti and Salaam,     nations. However, with the current           South Asia.
the key issues facing India and Paki-   dia and Pakistan have moved away which you have so persuasively ex-           environment of zero dialogue, the
stan in this time of what he called,    from their founding vision. Prof. plained in your article, is bound to        American bilateral relationships in               (William Shriver is a former
citing the French philosopher Ber-      Gandhi said that he wants to praise win. We must continue our duty,           South Asia are endangered. Am-               intern with the Bureau of South
nard Henri Levy, the age of mad-        the “silent servants” in both India firm in our conviction that God Al-       bassador Ahmed and Prof. Gandhi              and Central Asia at the US Depart-
ness. Ambassador Ahmed split his                                                                                      shed light and hope on all three of          ment of State, the Woodrow Wilson
talk into three portions: madness,                                                                                    these issues, offering perspectives          Center, Hudson Institute, and Asia
hatred, and hope. He first argued                                                                                     from both sides.                             Society Policy Institute. He is also
that the age of coronavirus is re-                                                                                                                                 a recent graduate of the School of
vealing the divisions of South Asian                                                                                                                               International Service at American
society, as India and Pakistan exist                                                                                                                               University, focusing on South Asia.
in a bubble of hyper-madness. This                                                                                                                                 He can be reached at: shriverwil-
bubble of madness is manifested in                                                                                                                                 liam@gmail.com)
the mood of extreme hate and na-
tionalism in India today. As India
and Pakistan huff and puff against
one another, the possibility of nu-
clear engagement is very real. With
the addition of the United States and
China in South Asia, there are now
four nuclear armed nations rubbing
up against each other in and around
the Kashmir region.
     Ambassador Ahmed continued
his argument with the belief that this
age of madness comes from a period
of hatred in South Asia. The Hindu
population sees historical humilia-
tion of Muslim rule for centuries in
the subcontinent, while the Muslim
population sees the continued Hin-
du prejudice and violence against
Muslims in India. This reality creates
a paradigm of fear and deep division

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